The beautiful lady pictured below, is someone who has had a profound impact on my life.  Debby Bivins is a freedom dweller, lover of people, and all around joy to be around.  You may not know her name, because she does the hard work of loving others in her community, living life with people day in and day out, and giving of her time freely to create a space where people can come as they are, without much recognition.  She doesn’t broadcast all of her good works online or preach about her work from a big stage, she just does the work faithfully.   However, after you listen to this podcast you won’t forget her story or the words of wisdom she shares!


There is so much talk about abortion especially in the political climate we find ourselves in today, but this debate has been going on for decades.  We hear so many people shouting about their “side,” but sometimes we fail to listen to someone who has actually been through it.  Debby shares her experience with me in this podcast, even though it is difficult and she knows may result in judgement from others.  I challenge you to listen to her perspective, receive her words with grace, and send this to someone who might need to hear a message of truth and freedom from shame.

“Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”  Romans 8:1

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Date posted: November 17, 2016 | Author: | No Comments »

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My first podcast interview is out!  I had so much fun talking with Emily Day, co founder of the Called Women’s Conference.  She was honest, fun, and inspiring!  We discussed some serious topics here, such as the absence of her earthly father in her life and the healing process she has gone through as an adult, especially after becoming a mom.  We also discussed The Called Women’s Conference and her fun Instagram account, all about cheap finds for styling your life, called Shop Murfreesboro!


Note*** We recorded this conversation the week before the Called Conference took place, I had hoped to have it out before this week, but just couldn’t get it done in time.  The conference was actually this past Saturday featuring guest speaker Annie F. Downs.  Be sure to follow along as there will be more events/ways to get involved throughout the year in the Called ministry including another conference next fall.

I hope you enjoy our convo, I know I did, thanks Emily!

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Date posted: November 4, 2016 | Author: | No Comments »

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