This week I had such an amazing conversation with my friend in real life, Lindsay McCaul!  Lindsay is a singer, songwriter, and worship leader, who has toured with some of the biggest names in Christian music including Casting Crowns and Brandon Heath.  Lindsay shared her story with me about walking away from touring right before the birth of her son, even though she was having lots of success in her music career.  Sometimes God asks us to lay things down, even if we don’t fully understand why in the moment, and we talked about that tension.  We also talked about our struggles with eating disorders in our younger years and freedom from that, Praise God!

Lindsay is so warm and encouraging, and I am so blessed to call her a friend.  She is also amazingly talented, go check out out some of her music linked below!

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Lindsay’s Music


Date posted: March 20, 2018 | Author: | No Comments »

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On this episode my guest is Emily Chapman Richards, you might recognize her name maiden name, because she is the daughter of the one and only Steven Curtis Chapman!  However, Emily is doing her own thing these days as the Assistant Executive Director and Vice President at Show Hope, a nationally recognized voice for adoption advocacy and orphan care support work.  She shared with me how the dream of Show Hope began in her family and what it has grown into today.

We also talked about being a full time working wife and momma to 3 littles girls, it ain’t easy!  And, of course, we had to chat a little about what it was like growing up as Steven Curtis Chapman’s daughter.  Emily was so down to earth and relatable, I just loved getting to know her through our conversation.

Side note: Check out my conversation with Katelyn Fuson about her adoption story that was sparked by Show Hope in Episode 17.

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Date posted: March 7, 2018 | Author: | No Comments »

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This week my guest is a fellow podcaster, Hunter Beless.  Hunter is a military wife, mom of two little girls, and host of The Journey Women podcast.  Obviously, we had a a lot in common to discuss about motherhood and podcasting, but she also shared about her (unexpected) life, living on a military base.

Hunter is passionate about the bible and mentoring woman through the guests on her podcast in various areas of faith.  We chatted about surrendering control as moms, feeling called to start something, but also knowing that her calling as a wife and mom takes precedent over everything else.  I loved getting to know Hunter, and I was so encouraged by our conversation to keep seeking God above all else, and He will direct our steps.


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Date posted: February 20, 2018 | Author: | No Comments »

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Singer/Songwriter Tanya Godsey is my guest this week, and our conversation included some topics that we’ve never discussed on 20,000 Words before!  She shared wisdom and insight from her life as a woman of color and growing up in a immigrant community, as well as her experience as the spouse of someone suffering from depression.  I was so thankful for her vulnerability, she is obviously a woman of God, seeking him in all she does.

She is also a mom of 2, so we discussed what “Soul Care” looks like for her.  Share this with a friend and go find Tanya over on website and social media, linked below!  She is such a talented lady, and I was honored to have her on the show!


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Date posted: February 6, 2018 | Author: | No Comments »

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The first episode of 20,000 Words for 2018 might be the most impactful interview I have had yet.  My guest, Cori Salchert, has one of the most beautiful stories of redemption I have ever heard.  I will forever be impacted by her story and the way God is using her.  She and her family, (she actually has 8 biological children) take in foster babies with very grim health diagnosis’s. With her history as a nurse, she has the training to help these babies, who otherwise would probably pass away without the love of a family.  Cori actually has her own health issues, including several auto immune diseases which kept her from returning to her old job.  However, God was doing a new thing in her life and led her to taking in these precious babies.

This is a must listen for anyone and everyone, I hope you are as deeply moved as I was by Cori and her God story.  Also, be sure to check out her book, I Will Love You Forever, coming out in March!


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“I Will Love You Forever” by Cori Salchert

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Date posted: January 23, 2018 | Author: | No Comments »

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